UPDATED EDITOR’S NOTE: Faced with widespread protests from “reasonable” and “thoughtful” people like the League of Women Voters, Chairman Zev Yaroslavsky backed down at least temporarily on limiting the public to just three minutes total to comment of the dozens of items on the Board of Supervisors agendas, referring the issue back to County Counsel Andrea Ordin. In this open letter, Hollywood activist Bob Blue — who may or may not meet the supervisors standard of being a “reasonable” person — makes a clear and compelling case that the County Board of Supervisors are acting illegally in all but eliminating the public’s right to speak if they adopt this measure at today’s meeting. It would limit the public to three minutes of comment on the board’s entire agenda which shows just how little respect they have for what people think and why voters should throw professional politicians out of office.
Honorable Supervisor and Chair Zev
Yaroslavsky
821 Kenneth Hahn Hall of
Administration
500 West Temple Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Sent Via Email
Subject: Objections to the January
10, 2012 Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors Meeting, Agenda Item 12,
“Recommendation as submitted by Supervisor Yaroslavsky: Approve revisions to
the Rules of the Board relating to the following Sections to improve the way
Board meetings are conducted”
Link to Agenda Item Motion: http://file.lacounty.gov/bos/supdocs/65850.pdf
Brown Act / Open Meetings Laws
Honorable Supervisor and Chair Zev Yaroslavsky:
I am formally submitting my objections to the proposed changes to the
“Rules of the Board of Supervisors” as proposed by your motion under
Agenda Item 12 for the January 10, 2012 meeting of the Los Angeles County Board
of Supervisors.
Please note that my objections were
submitted before the start of the January 10, 2012 meeting of the Los Angeles
County Board of Supervisors.
We should be encouraging more public
participation and openness in our local government, not less. This will be a
benefit to both the Board of Supervisors and the public and as elected officials;
you should hear public comments to their fullest extent. You be should open to
scrutiny, it encourages refinement, improvement, and a cleaner government.
Below are my objections:
1. Objection to requiring member of
the public to give their names and addresses as a condition of addressing
the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors:
Section 39. ADDRESSING THE BOARD.
a. No person shall address the Board
until he/she has first been recognized by the Mayor/Chair. The decision of the
Mayor/Chair to recognize or not recognize a person may be changed by order of
the Board. All persons addressing the Board shall give their names and
addresses for the purpose of the record. All persons addressing the
Board should avoid personal attacks, inflammatory language, and derogatory
references to race, ethnicity or religion. The Mayor/Chair may, in the interest
of facilitating the business of the Board, limit the amount of time which a
person may use in addressing the Board.
[Sentence above underlined for
emphasis and was not underlined in the original document]
The sentence above that is in bold
and underlined, “All persons addressing the Board shall give their names and
addresses for the purpose of the record.” should be deleted.
Persons addressing the board cannot
be required to give their names and addresses. Currently the use of the word
“shall” makes this a conditional requirement of the public and is a violation
of the Brown Act. Members of the public are not required to give their names
and addresses in order to speak in front of a legislative body in California.
[Under the Brown Act, a
member of the public can attend a meeting of a legislative body without having
to register or give other information as a condition of attendance. (§ 54953.3;
see also 27 Ops.Cal.Atty.Gen. 123 (1956).) If a register, questionnaire or
similar document is posted or circulated at a meeting, it must clearly state
that completion of the document is voluntary and not a precondition for
attendance. (§ 54953.3.)] – Page 27 of the 2003 CA Attorney General Brown Act
Booklet.
2. Objection to limiting and
restricting the amount of time that members of the public can speak on multiple
items – This is not reasonable.
Section 37. REQUESTS TO ADDRESS THE
BOARD ON AN AGENDA ITEM. A person
requesting to address the Board on an agenda item(s) will be allowed a
total of three (3) minutes per meeting. When a person has signed up to speak
on multiple agenda items, the Mayor/Chair has the discretion to ask that the
person address all of their items at one time and stay within the three (3)
minute time limit. Further, the Mayor/Chair may, in the interest of
facilitating the business of the Board, further limit or increase the amount of
time which a person may use in addressing the Board. For instance, setting
stricter time limits might be necessary in order to allow every member of the
public who wishes to address the Board to do so within a total allotted time,
or in order to complete a meeting with a lengthy agenda within a reasonable
period of time. Requests to be heard must be submitted to the Executive
Officer-Clerk of the Board before the item is called. Any individual found to
have engaged in disruptive conduct, as defined in section 10 of these Rules,
may be prohibited from addressing the Board at future meetings as set forth in
section 10 (e).
Setting a 3 minute time limit on
multiple items clearly restricts members of the public’s ability to reasonable
address the legislative body. For example, that would limit the time to 18
seconds per item if a member of the public wanted to speak on 10 agenda items.
This clearly forecloses meaningful public dialogue.
[The Act provides that
the legislative body shall not prohibit a member of the public from criticizing
the policies, procedures, programs, or services of the agency, or of the acts
or omissions of the legislative body. (§ 54954.3(c).) Public meetings of
governmental bodies have been found to be limited public fora. As such, members
of the public have broad constitutional rights to comment on any subject
relating to the business of the governmental body. Any attempt to restrict the
content of such speech must be narrowly tailored to effectuate a compelling
state interest. Specifically, the courts found that policies that prohibited
members of the public from criticizing school district employees were
unconstitutional. (Leventhal v. Vista Unified School Dist. (1997) 973 F.Supp.
951; Baca v. Moreno Valley Unified School Dist. (1996) 936 F.Supp. 719.) These
decisions found that prohibiting critical comments was a form of viewpoint
discrimination, and that such a prohibition promoted discussion artificially
geared toward praising (and maintaining) the status quo, thereby foreclosing
meaningful public dialogue.] – Page 28 of the 2003 CA Attorney General Brown
Act Booklet.
Link to the 2003 CA Attorney General
Brown Act Booklet: http://caag.state.ca.us/publications/2003_Main_BrownAct.pdf
Sincerely,
Robert (Bob) Blue
Los Angeles, CA.




Who do the Board of Supes think they are? The Los Angeles City Council?
The Los Angeles City Council really does not care how long the public testifies. They wander around talking with each other and ignore public testimony. The highest paid in the nation and they ignore the public testimony. Isn’t that what they are paid to do?
I SUBMITTED A COMMENT ON THIS VERY ISSUE:
Jan. 9, 2012
To: (Dis)Honorable Dirtbag Zev Yaroslavsky and the other 4 Jokers of the Board of Supervisors:
Re: 3 Minute total Limit on Public Comment:
Dirtbags:
As you know, you never have and never will represent Homeowners, Small Business Owners, and anyone with an IQ above 101. So now, I am not only AMAZED but actually PLEASED that you’ve decided to come out of the closet and admit that public meetings are just a sham and that your decisions are rubber stamped by the campaign donors you WORK FOR.
How in 2012, do just 5 people “represent” 78 Cities and over 8 million people in one County?
How is it we have a Board made up of 3 Communists (You Zev, Ms. Molina, and Mr. Ridley-Thomas) and 2 sorry excusues for Republicans (Knabe and Antonovic?) IS THIS THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR 5 PEOPLE TO RUN THE PLACE?
Everything from sales taxes, land use, and even plastic bags go AGAINST the guy who pays the bills and IN FAVOR of welfare recipients and huge Corporate Donors. That leaves no room for the guys and gals who pay all the taxes and create the jobs here!
The problem I have is really just one Supervisor Yaroslavsky: I need $200,000 from you guys so I can sell my home for the huge loss it will be sold at in this market TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS IN VALUE IN HAVING MY HOME IN A COMMUNIST AND CORRUPT CONTROLLED GULAG CALLED L.A. COUNTY AND CITY!!!!! That’s really my one issue to you the Board. I’ve live here all of my life in L.A. County and never missed a property tax payment or paying on time of the dozens of illegal parking fines I’ve received. I pay through the Ass for ‘trash fees” that I don’t use to L.A. City and I pay a whopping 1.25% higher sales taxes compared to Ventura County just for the “privilige” of being here.
We’ll that’s my 3 MINUTES OF TALK ON TODAY’S AGENDA MR. Zev.
PLEASE MAKE OUT THAT CHECK AND PREPARE MY WAIVER-OF-LAWSUIT FORMS TO SIGN WHEN I PICK IT UP. Then I can do what really counts: MOVE OUT OF L.A. COUNTY AND WATCH IT GO STRAIGHT TO HELL WHERE IT REALLY BELONGS.
I hope this helps you regarding your move to cut off public discourse to 3 minutes a day.
Sincerely:
Wayne from Encino.
Although Wayne may have used harsh words, more and more and more and more and more and more people — are thinking the same thing:
That the Democrats and the Republicans are bought and paid for with campaign contributions making them mere puppets of wealthy scum who suck off the redevelopment agencies, the school and community college construction programs, the housing programs and other good programs turned very bad.
Evasive use of private email to conduct public business, weak enforcement of criminal statutes by the District Attorney, the California Attorney General and the US Attorney’s Office, and a general arrogant sense of entitlement by elected officials have rotted our public institutions from the inside out. They are mere shells of what they were in the past.
Perhaps it is time for more good thinking, hard working people to give serious consideration to packing up and leaving the shithole created by Antonio Villar and his merry band of general fund maruaders.
Ron, I have seen the tremendous respect the League of Women Voters gets from the Press and the left wing of the Democrats. But when you read carefully and pay it some respect, you will realize what these women really are doiing. I belong to a women’s club (California Federation of Repblican Women) and we have nothing to do with the LOWV. We are also educated and care about American famiies. Take your pick, friends.