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Board of Supervisors Illegal Meetings with the Governor: The Transcripts of What Was Said Behind Closed Doors

Caught red-handed holding three illegal closed-door meetings — two with Gov. Jerry Brown, one on the phone and one in person — Los Angeles County’s Board of Supervisors begrudgingly surrendered last week. (Transcript 9_20) (Transcript 9_21 (1)) (Transcript 9_26 (1))

If you have the patience to read through the transcripts from Sept. 20, 21, 26 of last year, you will quickly begin to wonder why they needed secrecy when they knew so little and had almost nothing interesting to say about prison realignment other than that they want to state to pay for everything.

It’s hard to see what they hoped to get from the governor who didn’t seem to have a grasp on the details of what he had wrought in releasing prisoners early and worse, he got confused about whether the Ralph M. Brown Act requiring open meetings of government bodies is a local or state law. (Ralph M. Brown was no relation to Pat or Jerry, both name Edmund G. Brown formally).

What’s disturbing is the indication that the real motive for wanting to do business in  back rooms is they are afraid the public will discover just how shallow and uninformed they really are.

Fortunately, the LA Times complained about he secrecy and Californians Aware, a non-profit led by First Amendment lawyer Terry Francke, sued the supervisors and won a settlement that should chill them from trying to keep the public ignorant of what’s going on in the future.

Here’s where near the end of the Sept. 26 meeting, they got a good laugh talking about how they would get around their collective violation of the law.

MS. ORDIN: I will say something also about the fact that this is a very unusual meeting, and we did make it unusual because of these potential threats to public service.

GOVERNOR BROWN: Let’s get our Brown Act cover story.

MS. ORDIN: Yes. One of the things I remember –

(Speaking simultaneously.)

SUPERVISOR MOLINA: There is press waiting in the lobby so we need to know.

MS. ORDIN: You may have folks — you may have folks out there who want to ask questions.

SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY: We do have folks

MS. ORDIN: And at the conclusion of this meeting, we will be going down for an open session because we do have members of the public who are going to be there to make public comment.

SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH: Let me just say that it’s the two from SEIU, Local 721, Ralph Miller probation and Andrea Gordon, professor of management, Association Local 1967. Those are the four –

GOVERNOR BROWN: They are down there?

SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH: Down there at the –

(Speaking simultaneously.)

MS. ORDIN: They want to be heard in public comment. And as everyone here is very sophisticated and already knows, this is a closed session so we can’t talk in great detail about what went on in the closed session, but we will let people know we were talking about the very thing we said we were which is the interference to public services.

GOVERNOR BROWN: Public services or

MS. ORDIN: It says public services or facilities is the language in the statute, but obviously the threat of public service –

GOVERNOR BROWN: Is that a — is that a local statute?

MS. ORDIN: No. State statute. It is the Brown Act. It is the Brown Act that allows us to make this — to have this meeting.

MALE SPEAKER: You know your grandfather –

(Speaking simultaneously.)

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7 Responses to Board of Supervisors Illegal Meetings with the Governor: The Transcripts of What Was Said Behind Closed Doors

  1. JOHN WALSH says:

    WITHOUT THE LEGISLATIVE LEGACY OF ASSEMBLYMAN RALPH MILTON BROWN, I’M NOTHING.

    THE KENTUCKY-BORN FUTURE SPEAKER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY ARRIVED EARLY IN MODESTO WHERE HE SETTLED
    PERMANENTLY.
    RALPH’S ACT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE IN 1953 AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY GOVERNOR “GOODIE”KNIGHT , CHANGING MY LIFE, ALTHOUGH I
    DIDN’T KNOW IT YET BECAUSE I WAS A FOURTH-GRADER IN THE BRONX AT THE TIME.
    UNDOUBTEDLY, ASSEMBLYMAN BROWN HAS CHANGED MOST CALIFORNIAN
    LIVES OVER THE PAST 59 YEARS SINCE THE PASSAGE OF HIS EPONYMOUS ACT!

  2. Wayne from Koretz-Occupied Encino says:

    Ron’s been deleting my posts again. HEY, RON, BABY! MAKE A CHOICE ALREADY—BE A WALTER MOORE TURNCOAT/CENSOR OR BE FOR FREE SPEECH. I upset people with my posts? So let’s play the game the way everyone wants to. Here’s the crap we see everywhere:
    “Jeez, Ron. Glad I’m not some 1% Republic-Creep, like that Antonovich. Jerry Brown did right by all of us. Democrats-Good, Everyone Else-baaaaaadddd. Go Obama.”
    There is that better Ron Trotsky?

    • ex valley says:

      Wayne, love your posts.
      If Ron censures them because he doesnt approve of what you write, don’t worry. Ron and his ilk are white-guilt ridden well-to-do liberal progressives. LA is full of these. You know the same type that stood by and let illegals take over the valley. The same type that has no valid arguments but always screams racism even that the white americans are a minority in the city. The same type that created a fertile ground for crooks like Villar to become mayor. Just think for a second – an uneducated pos without any real work experience gets to be a mayor of the 2nd largest city.

      The same type that happily voted for brown knowing his prior history. The same type that lets supervisors to run unoppposed.

  3. teddy says:

    Hi, Ron ands Wayne, so many changes have been made, I lost contact over the weekend. (not on facebook or twitter).

  4. teddy says:

    I learned something in reading your column, Ron. It is that the Brown Act was
    dnot from Jerry Brown’s father, but someone from the Bronx. What a mess
    has been created, and the people have no control over their own government. It is
    Anti-American in my opinion. We vote in people we do not even know who then
    get involvewd in how we live our own lives. Incredible! We need a new Act, in my opinion.

    • MissAnthrope says:

      A new act, indeed! How about…?
      …the No Loop Holes Brown Act…
      …the Always Open Door Act…
      …the What Does the State, County or City Have to Discuss That’s so Secretive Anyway Act?
      …the Trust in No One Act…
      …the Six Years & You’re Out of Office, Commissions & Lobbying Act…
      …the Only Public Funding for Elections Act…
      …the No Writing Laws by Lobbyists Act…
      …even better, the No Lobbyists Act…
      …the No Corporate Influence Act…

      Speaking of which, must read in today’s L.A. Times:
      “AT&T wields enormous power in Sacramento”

      http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-att-20120422,0,4280264.story

  5. Wayne from Occupied Koretz-Encino says:

    Ex-Valley stated:
    “Ron (Trotsky) and his ilk are white-guilt ridden well-to-do liberal progressives. LA is full of these. You know the same type that stood by and let illegals take over the valley.”
    What’s more incredible is that in 2012, like WWII in Vichy France, CD5 has been divided between a Valley area and a Westside area. Thus, Like Hitler’s France, This area has been divided between West L.A. and OCCUPIED ENCINO!
    We the hostages in Encino WANT OUR OWN COUNCIL DISTRICT AND WANT TO BE LIBERATED FROM THE BEAST PAUL KORETZ! $800,000 and MODIFIED SAMPLE BALLOTS and a whole host of other things brought this DICTATOR to our Valley to be OCCUPIED for 12 years! L.A. has no free and fair local elections!
    When our fellow LARGE LOT homes get their DWP bills THIS SUMMER, they will see the impact of being OCCUPIED by such DICTATORS. These friggin LIBERALS are taking money away from their kids private school funds and funds to pay for their mortgages and property taxes TO GIVE MORE AND MORE TO HERR KORETZ and the other 14 DICTATORS while getting LESS WATER AND POWER!
    L.A. Liberals ARE MENTALLY ILL based on these observations. Why would a group of people WANT TO PAY MORE FOR LESS UTILITIES????
    Then we have ObamaCare: In 2013, a 3% SURTAX

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